Danish Imams Busted!
*** NEANDERNEWS EXCLUSIVE ***
Do these two photos look similiar?
They should because they are the same! No, not a satire of Mohammed nor any other sacred Islamic figure but a photo of Jacques Barrot, a pig squealing contestant at the French Pig-Squealing Championships in Trie-sur-Baise’s annual festival. NeanderNews discovered this photo, taken by Bob Edme of AP, posted on an August 15, 2005 AP story seen here on MSNBC’s website.
As Gateway Pundit, Counter Terrorism Blog and others have reported Danish Imam Ahmad Abu Ladan, leader of The Islamic Society of Denmark, toured the middle east to create awareness of supposed anti-Islamic cartoons and included the above black and white photo as well as two other undocumented examples. Akhmad Akkari, spokesman of the tour, explained that the three drawings had been added to “give an insight in how hateful the atmosphere in Denmark is towards Muslims.”
Akkari claimed he does not know the origin of the three pictures. He said they had been sent anonymously to Danish Muslims. However, when Danish newspaper Ekstra Bladet asked if it could talk to these Muslims, Akkari refused to reveal their identity. BBC World aired a story on 1-30-2006 showing the three non-published images and claimed they had been published in Denmarks Jyllands-Posten, these images however had never been published in Jyllands-Posten.
NeanderNews wonders if Jacques knows what he has started? A big kudos to ‘The Celtic Semite’ for this great lead.
WoodWorking
Neanderman- as far as relevance, I think the original discovery of this photo that was added to ‘Danish Imam’s Islamic Rage Campaign Tour December 2005′ posed many questions. The first one should have been, “Is this photo even a satire on Muhammad? And if not, where did the photo come from?” And now that we know where it came from, it poses other thoughts. One is, “If any random rendering or photo with porcine features is considered this dangerous in the Islamic world, how close are we to dialog with them?”
-your reader and jounalistic operative, The Celtic Semite
Comment by kelluman — February 6, 2006 @ 7:35 pm
Fake Image Exposed?
If you have been following the cartoon story, radical Islamists traveled to the Middle east and disseminated images which were not even published. It appears as though one of those images was never even meant to be a caricature of
Trackback by Riehl World View — February 6, 2006 @ 8:53 pm
[…] NeanderNews reports that the vile Danish imams apparently cruise MSNBC looking for things offensive to Islam. Not finding them, they make them up. The audacity of these liars, to threaten the civilized of the earth and demand that we change our ways. “Stop calling us violent or we’ll kill you!” The incredible fecklessness of Western governnments that try to appease this dreck. Re-read the Neumayr piece; tell us why these people should not be slapped down, punished and ridiculed like the criminal lowlifes they are. Appeasement is not an option. (HT: MM) […]
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for a second…a split second…i thought that was Saddam Hussien lol
Comment by hurricane567 — February 7, 2006 @ 2:29 am
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This would be funny if the stakes weren’t so high.
As it is, more like gallows humor.
Comment by octopod — February 7, 2006 @ 4:53 am
[…] Remember those ‘extra’ pictures of Muhammed that I mentioned yesterday? Well, NeanderNews has done some investigating, and it turns out that one of the pictures isn’t of Muhammed at all - it’s a picture of Jacques Barrot, a contestant in the 2005 French Pig-Squealing Championships. […]
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Cartoons update
If you’ve been following the controversy closely, you’ll know that there were some fake (and much more insulting) cartoons added ( by the group who went on tour to drum up outrage) to the ones that Jyllands-Posten actually published. One of them ha…
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Just in from London
Some pictures from London, found at Spreeblick (by Johnny, who doesn’t believe anything). And while I am at it, here’s more of a story behind the pictures….
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[…] In what is becoming standard fare in the world of Islam, Imam Ahmad Abu Ladan, head of the Danish Islamic Society, has been hawking a phony cartoon he apparently made up showing Muhammed with a pig’s snout. […]
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[…] Neandernews has the exclusive scoop. At least one of the three additional fake Muhammad photos being circulated by the Danish Imam Ahmad Abu Laban have been traced to the source, and the Danish Imams are left exposed. […]
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[…] *A source for one of the fake cartoons apparently uncovered at NeanderNews. […]
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[…] The frightening thing is that with all the tension between the Western world and Islam right now, these small things are the sort that could be used as an excuse to trigger a third world war. And someone may have even added fuel to the fire on purpose. […]
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[…] Gisteren melde detelegravin in de comments op dat de commotie helemaal niet om de geplaatste spotprents gaat. Het Nederlands dagblad meld hierover in een interview met Vebjörn Selbekk dat hij de cartoons ter illustratie geplaatst heeft in een vraaggesprek met de Noorse cartoonisten. Verder zegt hij: “De huidige commotie in het Midden-Oosten gaat over andere cartoons, die imams vanuit Denemarken hebben meegenomen om een volkswoede tegen Denemarken te ontketenen. Dat zijn tekeningen waarvan ik het niet in mijn hoofd zou halen ze ooit te plaatsen, zoals een cartoon van Mohammed met een varkenskop of Mohammed die zich door een hond laat dekken. (Varkens en honden zijn voor moslims onreine dieren. De herkomst van deze cartoons is onbekend, red.). Ongelooflijk grof! Dat - totaal vertekende - beeld hebben moslims nu van ons. De cartoons uit Jyllands Posten zijn veel onschuldiger.'’ Op de site marokko.nl (forum) valt verder te lezen: “Ahmed Abdel Rahman Abu Laban, één van Denemarkens meest prominente Imams, heeft ergens in November een commissie samengesteld van ongetwijfeld buitengewoon wijze mannen, om in het Midden Oosten te ‘debatteren’ over de gewraakte cartoons. Maar Abu Laban zal Abu Laban niet zijn als hij de 12 cartoons niet duidelijk genoeg vond en dus heeft hij er een aantal extra laten maken, waaronder één cartoon waar Mohammed wordt afgebeeld met een varkenshoofd”. En dan vraag ik me toch af waarom de main stream media hier niet mee naar buiten komt? Dit zou dan toch een hoop duideljk maken. Ook al zal het niet meevallen te accepteren dat een eigen Imam de schuldige is van de inzet van deze campagne. Update: De foto waar het allemaal om gaat staat op deze site.. Mohammed met een varkenskop. Yeah right! Het is dus een vaghe kopie van een foto waar de Fransman Jacques Barrot op afgebeeld staat. En op de dam in Amsterdam moet je aanstaande Zaterdag maar even links laten liggen.. […]
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[…] In other news, Gateway Pundit continues the exploration of how this whole mess started, and where the three “faked” cartoons came from. The source of one has been tracked down. Meanwhile, Michelle Malkin has been following this story pretty closely… You might also want to check out her post on the UK Muslim cleric found guilty of incitement today. Abu Hamza al-Masri was found guilty of encouraging violence and racial hatred. More here. It was a long time coming… […]
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I guess they are learning from CBS. The pictures are ‘Fake But Accurate’.
Comment by gultig — February 7, 2006 @ 10:37 am
1 Faked Muhammed cartoon identified
Gateway Pundit reports that one of the Muhammed cartoons that was faked by the Danish Imams has been identified. Dennis Nixon at Neander News reports that AP photographer Bob Edme posted this photo on August 15, 2005 in an MSNBC story about the Frenc…
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Observations
The death toll continues to rise as rioters tried to overrun a peacekeeping outpost in Afghanistan that houses Norwegian troops. One Afghan was killed in that episode. In total, at least six people have been killed since the Islamists took offense at…
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The very FACT that the Danish imams and whoever else went on that trip with the original twelve + three drawings which included this pose from the French hog-calling contest, and tried to pass them off as genuinely representative of the feeling of the Danes toward Islam; the very fact that these men tried to INCITE hatred in the hearts of others against a whole country is VISCIOUS, MALICIOUS AND DESERVES INTERNATIONAL SANCTION AND CONDEMNATION FROM THE COURT IN THE HAGUE! Iran is behind this and Iran should be made to pay a price for this inflammatory incitement to international bad will and physical violence resulting in deaths!
Comment by foreign devil — February 7, 2006 @ 11:22 am
Fake Cartoon Update
When Imam Ahmad Abu Ladan, leader of The Islamic Society of Denmark, went on his little publicity tour to show the Muslim world just how persecuted Denmark’s Muslims were, he carried with him a folder containing the Jyllands-Posten cartoons (almost 3 …
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[…] Danish Imams Busted! Do these two photos look similiar? They should because they are the same! No, not a satire of Mohammed nor any other sacred Islamic figure but a photo of Jacques Barrot, a pig squealing contestant at the French Pig-Squealing Championships in Trie-sur-Baise’s annual festival. NeanderNews discovered this photo, taken by Bob Edme of AP, posted on an August 15, 2005 AP story seen here on MSNBC’s website. […]
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I Wouldn’t Call It “Rage”
More death and destruction in Islamic nations today, ostensibly over the Jyllands-Posten cartoons. ABC (US) Radio had a sound bite from a Muslim apololgist: There is a pent-up anger, a pent-up rage, at the West, because we are not in
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As Neanderman’s operative, I have to say that some of you commentators are missing a point. It is quite possible that some bigot sent a copy of the photo to a Muslim’s home and scrawled the name of the Islamic prophet onto it. This certainly would constitute as harassment. So what we’ve discovered here is the original origin of the photo, not the truth of how it was actually used. I think it’s important to keep the first possibility open. However, I think at this point it’s equally or even more possible (considering Akkari’s motives) that he found the image himself. Now matter what the case may be though, it’s still relevant to the current rage around the world. The fact is that porcine images themselves have become dangerous. The fact that Islamofascists around the world will probably, when they work up enough rage, now call for poor Jacques’s dismemberment no matter how much he provides hard proof that he is not satirizing Mohammad in the photo, but is at a pig squealing contest. People everywhere could be in danger if they teach nursery school children that cows say “moo” and pigs say “oink”. I can see the Arab Newspaper headlines now, “children in U.S. and Europe are taught to revile Mohamed by saying “oink”. It’s as if the existence of pigs should be outlawed (see http://lostbudgie.blogspot.com/2005/10/winnie-poohs-friend-piglet-banned-in.html) for this reality.
-Celtic Semite
Comment by kelluman — February 7, 2006 @ 12:28 pm
[…] Danish Imams are lying to their own people using a faked cartoon to spark rage and violence. […]
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[…] Seems that the Danish immans that toured the middle east inciting folks to voilence over the insulting cartoons published in a Danish newspaper added a few extra insuling cartoons of their own. And they got caught. […]
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Celtic Semite, you’re correct that it’s possible that the image was sent to a Danish Muslim as you stated. But the burden of proof on that would seem to lay with the imam making this claim. And it’s not at all clear to me that he is representing it as such. By including it (and the other two non-published images) with the newspaper cartoons, the inference is that this was one of the published cartoons. Assuming that the “bonus’ images were indeed mailed to some Muslims by some individual pranksters: are we to condemn entire nations, even civilizations, because of a few miscreants? Only a totalitarian government like Red China would be capable of controlling its population sufficiently to prevent such stray harassment. So in effect these protesters are trying to force the West to impose a totalitarian regime on itself so as to prevent such “outrages” from occurring in the future. A regime, incidentally, like the ones they live under.
Ironically, of course, in many Muslim countries there is little or no freedom of speech or religion — other than for Islam. (And not even for certain types of Islam — for example, Shiites are persecuted in Saudi Arabia.) And speaking of Arabia, I wonder how many Westerners know that any form of worship other than the Wahhabist form of Islam is strictly forbidden. This one-sided demand for absolute respect for Islam in the West, while denying any other form of worship in the Middle East, must be spotlighted more, to show the West what vision radical Muslims have for the world.
Comment by Alistair — February 7, 2006 @ 1:46 pm
[…] NeanderNews a découvert cette photo, prise par Bob Edme d’Associated Press, postée avec un article de l’AP du 15 août 2005 que l’on peut voir ici sur le site Internet de MSNBC. Il ne s’agit donc pas du prophète, mais d’un certain Jacques Barrot, un participant au concours de cri du cochon, a TRIE-SUR-BAISE en France… lagrette @ 16:21 Enregistré dans : Islamisme et RATP […]
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Bravo man!
I have copied your photos on my Lebanese blog
Viva la blogosphere, down with the MSM !
Comment by Vox P. — February 7, 2006 @ 4:44 pm
Piss Christ vs. Cartoon Jihad
OK, check out this cartoon. It takes many iconic figures - religious, political, and cultural - and gives them the same “bomb” treatment as the now-infamous Danish cartoon featuring Mohammed, shown on the right. Are these so shocking in comparison?
Trackback by reverse_vampyr — February 7, 2006 @ 5:18 pm
Great Job !
You’re on BBC website now - these moralists recognized their wrongdoings :
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4686536.stm
Regards from Paris
Comment by le.conservateur — February 7, 2006 @ 5:24 pm
Neandernews, good job well done. This proofs that the Islamo-Fascists are willing to do anything in order to abuse their welcome in Denmark.
Comment by DewiSudarsono — February 7, 2006 @ 5:47 pm
In God we trust…
… as for Bogus Man, let’s take it with a pinch of salt. Study these two pictures: As far as Internet can show, the colour image above is a photo of Jacques Barrot, a pig squealing contestant at the French…
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What Massive Demonstrations?
That is the phrase I keep hearing about the Anti-Cartoon reactions, that phrase and “The reaction to the caricatures in the Danish Newspaper which has swept the world like wildfire. Excuse me? They were printed last September? That’s a little slower …
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Muhammed Pig Fake
Danish Imam Ahmad Abu Ladan, leader of The Islamic Society of Denmark went throughout the middle east supposedly proving how awful the Danish are to Muslims. One of his tools of persuasion was a pamphlet with anti-islamic cartoons. Many of these cartoo…
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[…] Neander News provides the proof that one of the cartoons that Copenhagen imam Abu Laban produced on his ME tour is actually a flattened black and white photo of:Jacques Barrot, a pig squealing contestant at the French Pig-Squealing Championships in Trie-sur-Baises annual festival.Inspired by Charles Johnson’s work on the Rathergate memo I converted the two images into an animated gif. It is pretty obvious that the Imam is misrepresenting the image in order to stoke Islamic rage. Posted by: Pat on Feb 07, 06 | 9:50 pm | [0] comments [0] Views | Permalink | [0] TrackBack | Go to Main Page Random Posts Abdul Rahman Yasin Let’s sue the Vending Machine makers Enlightment in Education var site=”sm6blogger” Judicious Asininity >>www.asininity.com 2004PHP […]
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Hey Folks -
Thanks for the kudos and links. ‘The Celtic Semite’ and myself were sitting around yesterday trying to think what we could do to contribute to world peace and this is what we came up with. It was either that or another Cindy Sheehan article.
But seriously thanks again for the links, it really seems to have caught fire including now a mention in Denmark’s ‘Jyllands-Posten’, where this all started.
~NeanderMan
Comment by NeanderMan — February 7, 2006 @ 9:16 pm
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One Cartoon was FAKED!
Unbelivable. did you Know (at least) one of the cartoons was STAGED, and wasn’t published?
Trackback by MarkBnj the Eclectic's Blog — February 7, 2006 @ 10:09 pm
Great job! But this won’t stop Muslims from believing it was indeed a cartoon mocking Mohammed. Just as pictures of mass graves in Kosovo can’t convince some to believe genocide ever occurred there. You can’t convince those who want to believe otherwise.
Comment by kitiany — February 7, 2006 @ 10:15 pm
Alistair,
“Assuming that the “bonus’ images were indeed mailed to some Muslims by some individual pranksters: are we to condemn entire nations, even civilizations, because of a few miscreants?”
ans- of course even to call the reaction of the entire Islamic world “over-reacting” would be more than diningenuous. I agree with you 100%.
- Celtic Semite
Comment by kelluman — February 7, 2006 @ 11:06 pm
The Three Extra Cartoons May Be Forgeries.–
In an earlier post Eugene Volokh demands a fatwa against anyone bearing false witness in the Danish cartoon flap.
Gateway Pundit
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Congrats on the scoop. The squealing photo is front page material today in “Ekstra Bladet” one of the two danish tabloids. You can see the front page here, but accessing the article requires purchase: http://ekstrabladet.dk/VisArtikel.asp?PageID=291489 I didn’t see the photo mentioned on front page of the two other papers I checked. Maybe on their web sites or tomorrow.
It reads “Danish imams exposed: PHOTO HOAX” I bought a copy “just for you” but haven’t seen neandernews mentioned anywhere (come on, you’re just a blogger). There is an editors column under the title “Swinishness in the name of Allah” (Swinishness is approx. mess or (malicious) dirty deeds in danish). On pp 4-5 there’s an article under the headline “Pig Picture Pure Hoax”. They’ve talked to mr. French Pig (no offense meant
) to the AP photographer and to cartoon-touring spokesman Ahmed Akkari. They were all surprised.
Ekstra Bladet is critical of immigration in general and the touring Imams in particular. This line is followed in the editorial column speaking of “old, two-tongued Abu Laban and the young smooth Ahmed Akkari”. “As Ekstra Bladets reporters yesterday presented the embarassing revelation to Ahmed Akkari the little imam didn’t feel like commenting at all. Anyway, what was he supposed to say? “I apologize”? The phrase he all the time demands that the prime minister and Jyllands-Posten repeat…” “Ahmed Akkari loves playing a role in the chaotic situation he helped create”.
Jacques Marrot (Francais en rose) is “schocked” and states: “I don’t want that picture used for propaganda in one form or the other, be it for or against Islam”. “If the picture has been used as some kind of propaganda I’ll have some lawyers look at the case”. AP photographer Bob Edme is “astonished”. “I can hardly remember that picture but it sounds completely bizarre”.
Ahmed Akkari is “ambushed” with the picture in an appointed interview with Ekstra Bladet, but basically says “no comments”. (EB brings the whole interview, but apparently he has already beforehand decided not to give any comments since he doesn’t trust them to “bring it in the right context”.
Jacques Marrot finished third in the competition.
Comment by nvj — February 8, 2006 @ 5:12 am
I should add that Ekstra Bladet nowhere mentions the possibility that someone might in fact have sent this picture to a danish moslem. I find the idea entirely plausible, but of course it’s weakened by the Imams’ refusal to identify the recipients.
And then there’s still the issue of malice vs. incompetence, but that’s a pretty weak defense from someone on a cartoon crusade to provoke backlash.
Comment by nvj — February 8, 2006 @ 5:19 am
These 2 pig-fornicating Danish Imams are the ones who we should be hunting!! As they are the cause of most of this trouble (and are doing at least as effective a job causing trouble as Al Qaeda ever did) we really should grab these sons of dogs and cut their heads off on live TV.
It’s bad enough all of Islam is acting like a bunch of little children over the original cartoons, now we got two scumbags going around instigating trouble. Those 2 should be killed in some particularly horrible manner as evertyhting that is occuring is being hyped as a result of their actions.
Comment by babylonandon — February 8, 2006 @ 7:50 am
everything - sheesh, my dislexia is getting worse!!
Comment by babylonandon — February 8, 2006 @ 7:51 am
The Danish Butterfly Effect
And so, where do we now find ourselves? With a mildly controversial series of editorial cartoons published in a hitherto obscure newspaper, ignited by an agenda-driven group, kindled by malignant forces for their own ends, and seized upon by willing …
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[…] One of three especially inflammatory but undocumented Muhammad images distributed by a Danish imam as an example of an “anti-Muslim environment” in the European country turns out to be a poorly reproduced copy of an Associated Press photo taken at a French pig-squealing contest. The weblog NeanderNews pointed out the image used by Imam Ahmad Abu Laban was a faxed copy of AP’s Aug. 15 photo of Jacques Barrot competing at the annual French Pig-Squealing Championships in Trie-sur-Baise. […]
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Now the French Pig is mentioned on the homepage of national broadcaster DR: http://dr.dk/Nyheder/Indland/2006/02/07/234208.htm
And Jyllands-Posten:
http://www.jp.dk/udland/artikel:aid=3545102/
DR sticks pretty closely to just “stating the facts” while the JP story focuses on how BBC attributed the picture to JP. (BBC has retracted and apologized).
Just checked the other major media and the story is not immediately visible.
In other news, Jyllands-Posten is trying to start a cooperation with the iranian Hamshahri (transcription?) newspaper to publish the planned holocaust-denial cartoons on the same day.
http://politiken.dk/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=437343
The comments were allegedly made by culture editor Flemming Rose to CNN’s American Morning. Maybe it’s part of the interview linked from here
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/02/08/cartoon.protests/index.html
Neither Rose nor editor-in-chief Carsten Juste could be reached for comment.
Comment by nvj — February 8, 2006 @ 11:08 am
[…] Addendum 12:38 pm: NeanderNews is following happenings in Denmark, where the press is pursuing the story of the fake cartoons; i.e. the three egregiously inflammatory pictures (never published in that Danish newspaper) that some Danish imams brought with them to the Middle East to show how Islam had been insulted in Denmark. NeanderNews previously illustrated the bizarre source of one these pictures here. […]
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I think there’s two interesting points here:
First, if the person in the photo is Muslim, then the photo actually depicts a muslim immigrant taking part in French society, and being accepted, not an image of hatred or prejudice towards muslims.
Second, the mainstream media appears to be ignoring the fact that none of the “inflammatory” images supposedly published in the newspaper were ever actually published, they were all made up by these imams and they’ve lied and told everyone they were in the newspaper.
Comment by phillesh — February 8, 2006 @ 12:50 pm
A picture is worth a thousand words.
Some words can be lies.
Comment by phillesh — February 8, 2006 @ 1:00 pm
phillesh:
Danish tabloid Ekstrabladet spoke to the french pig and says that he’s neither moslem nor practicing catholic. I take it that he’s non-practicing catholic which is pretty common in France. I don’t think many moslems would take part in a contest like that, especially since 1st prize was a pig roast whole. Peace be with that, if they don’t like bacon there’s more for me.
(Why is it that I enjoy saying “french pig”? And why does it remind me of the guy on the wall in “Quest for the Holy Grail??)
Comment by nvj — February 8, 2006 @ 2:19 pm
It amazes me to see such devoute muslims doing their act of violence with their faces covered.
Comment by gmann — February 8, 2006 @ 2:26 pm
A Perilous Premise
Some even proclaimed that one day America would be an Islamic state.” In 1983, in a speech marking the dedication of an Islamic Center in Stockholm, Sweden, an Islamic leader declared, “In the next fifty years, we will capture the Western world for I…
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This is most impressive. The Danish papers (and BBC) all quote you.
The French Gentleman is named Marrot (not to be confused with Jacques Barrot of the EU Transport Commission) and he has been interviewed by Ekstrabladet today: http://bibelen.blogspot.com/2006/02/pig-or-prophet.html
Comment by ateist — February 8, 2006 @ 4:10 pm
[…] That picture, it turns out, is far from being a satire of Mohammad or any other sacred Islamic figure. It is a picture of a French man at the French Pig-Squealing Championships in Trie-sur-Baise’s annual festival. Ahmed Abu-Laban has claimed these extra images were from threatening letters and promised to produce the letters for various news services. So far, copies of the letters have not been produced. The defilement of Mohammad’s image by Ahmed Abu-Laban is far the greater offence in this instance. By deliberately bringing this, and other much more offensive depictions of Mohammad and Islam, into the fray, Ahmed Abu-Laban himself must be held accountable by Muslims claiming offense at the set of cartoons published by the Danish newspaper. That is, if they are at all interested in retaining any credibility for their objections. Doubtful, as the issue isn’t about cartoons. Its deeper and broader. Again from Jesus in the Checkout Line: As Eric Raymond observes, “…serious is deadly. Any spiritual tradition that can’t laugh at itself, that can’t step outside its own dogmas and admit how absurd it can look from the outside, has already become a cancer.” The problem is, they are not so much deadly to themselves as they are to anyone who stands in their way. Such serious spirituality manifests itself as subtle religious persecution and escalates to violent crusades and religious wars. […]
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> And then there’s still the issue of malice vs. incompetence
T’would appear that Akkari is pretty good at doing what he does. He has replaced Ahmed Said Kassem as spokesman and no-body speaks with the press except Akkari - not even Abu Laban.
Akkari on the other hand “punishes” BT and Ekstra Bladet by refusing to speak to them. Another example of hypocrisy - didn’t they claim they went to the Middle East because they weren’t able to voice their complaints at home?
There’s a picture in today’s Ekstra Bladet (p. 5) where Akkari shows the pig to two foreign journalists.
There you go: http://i1.tinypic.com/nevy2g.jpg
Comment by ateist — February 8, 2006 @ 5:59 pm
France: shining beacon of Culture • France : haut lieu de Culture
Ok, context: Denmark. Moh (peace be upon him). Cartoons. As you know - or should know - by now, Iran has been stirring the pot on this one. The cartoons were first published in September last year. As you know…
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Cooking Up A Crisis
This is a fabricated crisis, cooked up by Muslim clerics to manipulate Muslims.
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[…] Once just an unknown man with a proclivity to imitate pigs Jacque Barrot, a simple man, has become the face of the international tensions surrounding the moslem cartoon riots. OK, probably an overstatement, but the uncovering of his photo by NeanderNews as the bogus source of Islamic proganda has received much international coverage. The following is just a small sample: […]
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[…] Sources: Those Lying Danish Imams, The Cartoon Hoax, Breaking the Taboo, Danish Imams Busted, Drawing Fire, Creating Outrage, and several others. […]
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[…] Second, the reaction was deliberately stoked by radical Danish Islamic imams - Abu Laban and Akkari, who toured the Middle East and included along with the fairly mild Jyllands Posten cartoons several other extremely offensive images, supposedly “hate mail” they had received. At least one of A’s extra images, supposedly of Mohammed as a pig, was in fact, nothing of the sort. It was a humorous picture of a Frenchman at a pig-calling contest. The point here is that the Danish imams, on their “lets’s make a big stink” mission, included extraordinarily offensive pictures that had nothing to do with the Danish newspaper’s cartoons. It’s clear that these gratuitous and dishonest additions contributed to the outrage that developed. […]
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Iranian leaders, including President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, call the controversy over the Mohammed cartoons a blessing from God. Amir Taheri says the whole shebang was a carefully planned and coordinated set-up. He’s got the story here.
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[…] First, there is strong evidence that the “cartoon riots’ in the other countries are arranged or at least inflamed further by the Moslem leaders themselves. As reported here, three other even more insulting cartoons were added by Moslem leaders to the ones published in the Danish newspapers. The more innocent source for one of the cartoons was even found here. So the Moslem leaders are deliberately adding fuel to the fire in this situation. […]
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[…] Sugiero compiles an interesting review of the provocation within the Muslim world that resulted in the widespread outrage, including the fabrication of additional images that supposedly “give an insight in how hateful the atmosphere in Denmark is towards Muslims.” […]
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[…] For those fucks who still don’t know, Muslims were NOT rioting over the stupid 12 Danish cartoons, but other more disgusting ones MADE UP by an agitator! If you gave those fake cartoons a look, I’ll like to hear you say you’re not offended. It’s not about what religion you are or who takes their religion seriously, it’s about sensitivity and respect for freedom of speech. […]
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[…] Vebjörn Selbekk, hoofdredacteur van de Noorse krant die de omstreden islamcartoons publiceerde, zegt in een interview met het Nederlands Dagblad (ND) dat de huidige commotie in het Midden-Oosten over andere cartoons gaat dan de twaalf uit het in opspraak geraakte Jyllands Posten. Volgens de journalist zouden imams spotprenten vanuit Denemarken hebben meegenomen om een volkswoede tegen Denemarken te ontketenen. “Dat zijn tekeningen waarvan ik het niet in mijn hoofd zou halen ze ooit te plaatsen, zoals een cartoon van Mohammed met een varkenskop of Mohammed die zich door een hond laat dekken. Ongelooflijk grof! Dat – totaal vertekende – beeld hebben moslims nu van ons. De cartoons uit Jyllands Posten zijn veel onschuldiger.’’ Varkens en honden zijn voor moslims onreine dieren. De herkomst van deze cartoons is onbekend, aldus het ND. Volgens Klokkenluideronline.nl, die Marokko.nl als bron gebruikt, zou één van Denemarkens meest prominente imams hierin de hand hebben gehad. ” Deze imam, Ahmed Abdel Rahman Abu Laban zou in november een commissie hebben samengesteld om in het Midden Oosten te ‘debatteren’ over de gewraakte cartoons. Maar Abu Laban zal Abu Laban niet zijn als hij de twaalf cartoons niet duidelijk genoeg vond en dus heeft hij er een aantal extra laten maken, waaronder één cartoon waarop Mohammed wordt afgebeeld met een varkenshoofd”. […]
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[…] This comment strikes me as the quintessence of what’s wrong with the way we think about these issues. British and American (and presumably other European) Muslims will be made to feel bad by other Muslims when they tell them that they’ve been diss’d. Why on earth should people not be expected to feel pain? What kind of infantilization is going on here? Why should we protect them from such “pain,” rather than expect them to reply intelligently to their Muslim brethren, and tell them that their infantile behavior in rioting over these pictures is embarrassing Muslims the world over. Or, better yet, tell them that they’ve been worked into a fever pitch by dishonest Muslims who faked really disgusting pictures of the Prophet to provoke them. Of course, that would be treating the Muslims in Europe as responsible members of the society. True, readers and viewers who have been following the story might well have wanted to judge the cartoons’ impact, humor, and offensiveness for themselves, and the press might therefore have felt some responsibility to provide that opportunity. But the public does not have a right to read or see whatever it wants no matter what the cost, and the cartoons are in any case widely available on the Internet. […]
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